[LiA][Solved][Spoiler] About the other plot

[IanTheWizard]

This thread is about the sequel Lost in Astral.
Big spoiler alert!

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In my playing, I completed the game with only Kir after Kiel was killed. And I thought that's the only plot.

But in a player's playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and then Kiel came back to life. I don't know Russian, so I don't understand that conversation between Kir and the Joon sage.

In my playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he did not automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and Kiel remained dead.

Can someone explain the factor which triggers Kir's automatic talk with the Joon sage? I probably won't load a previous savegame to complete the game again with Kiel; I'm just curious about what triggers that alternative plot.

[Vio]

This thread is about the sequel Lost in Astral.
Big spoiler alert!

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In my playing, I completed the game with only Kir after Kiel was killed. And I thought that's the only plot.

But in a player's playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and then Kiel came back to life. I don't know Russian, so I don't understand that conversation between Kir and the Joon sage.

In my playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he did not automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and Kiel remained dead.

Can someone explain the factor which triggers Kir's automatic talk with the Joon sage? I probably won't load a previous savegame to complete the game again with Kiel; I'm just curious about what triggers that alternative plot.

In order to trigger this ending, you need to complete all secret quests given by Fortune teller on Suslanger, Uika on Gipath and Haburru on Ingos. These quests (five for each allod) don't have journal entries and require reading dialogues with quest-givers and understanding their hints and references. At the end of each group of secret quests, you get a special item. Combining all three of these items will trigger this ending.

[IanTheWizard]

@Vio, thank you for explaining.

I did not do some of the secret quests because I think they are ethically controversial. In my opinion, this kind of mechanism is unfair to some players.

[Vio]

@Vio, thank you for explaining.

I did not do some of the secret quests because I think they are ethically controversial. In my opinion, this kind of mechanism is unfair to some players.

I understand you. There was no point in killing the Khadaganian Official on Gipath, he's already suffered enough (and had his karmic retribution for setting Zak up) and he doesn't even know Kir. What other quests do you consider to be ethically controversial?

[Jet]

But in a player's playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and then Kiel came back to life. I don't know Russian, so I don't understand that conversation between Kir and the Joon sage.

You can try to enable automatic transaltion for the video: 
   

[IanTheWizard]

I understand you. There was no point in killing the Khadaganian Official on Gipath, he's already suffered enough (and had his karmic retribution for setting Zak up) and he doesn't even know Kir. What other quests do you consider to be ethically controversial?

Thank you! That Khadaganian man is also neutral rather than hostile when I approached him, and it is his natural right to go to anywhere he wants. So I really didn't have the heart to kill him.

To be honest, I only completed the first secret quest in Gipath and the first secret quest in Ingos, so I don't know many secret quests. The reason that I did not do the first secret quest in Suslanger is because it involves stealing, if I understand it correctly. I don't like to steal. I know there are must-do quests which involve stealing as well, but they are must-do anyway and I didn't have any choice.

The most ridiculous one in my opinion is the second secret quest in Ingos, and the reason is the quest giver Haburru's personality in this quest. The first secret quest shows that Haburru is a kind-hearted and sympathetic woodfolk. But, in the next secret quest, he suggests you to steal human villager's money. That kind of personality is too contradictory.

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But in a player's playing, after Kir talked to the Joon girl, he automatically go to talk to the Joon sage, and then Kiel came back to life. I don't know Russian, so I don't understand that conversation between Kir and the Joon sage.

You can try to enable automatic transaltion for the video: 

Thank you! I just checked it and understood it.